Forum:Findings from the recent chat debacle...

This post is meant to be a reference archive from multiple sources on the recent debacle between Rampantlion513 and Slopijoe, as well as the final course of action that will be taken due to actions on both sides.

The following is a compilation by PresidenEden78 of the BF Wiki chat and talk pages placed on July 12th, 2012 at about 11 PM. It is divided by user and is not chronological (sorry).

{{Scroll box|1={{Archive|1= =Rampantlion513= My story is that I just joined tywin's game and his friends happen to be there. I call car noob (friendly) and his friend ODDJOB calls me a pathetic cunt and mutes me. Then he unmutes me to cause flamebait. Tywin and hsi friend make fun of me, so I leave and defriend tywin. I block his friend, too. Anyways tywin tells car to make an account (which you banned) he also tells ODDJOB to make an account to troll me. Rampantisanoob is banned, so car creates a new account, carcrazcid. tywin does not ban the sockpuppet (not doing his job) and car and ODDJOB proceed to troll me. Car is banned and ODDJOB is kicked

From YuriKaslov's Talk Page
Ok Yuri, I have other sources for this. A guy named Rampantlion513isaNOOB joined chat. Charcoal promptly banned him. Then he came back as Carcrazcid (sockpuppet) and tywin did not ban him. Tywin also called his friend XxODDJOBxX up and told him to join wiki and troll me. He also told this to Carcrazcid. What I am saying is that tywin didn't do his job and was immature. I hope you take this into consideration. PSKWhirled is my other source

Wrong. They were asshats to ME. I join and ODDJOB mutes me. I did not block you either. I never said you were not a bad person. I said that if you wanted to have mood swings that is fine but I do not want any part of it.

From My Talk Page
You know how Carcrazcid and ODDJOB said they didn't know me before I joined chat? I woke up to something pleasant today. ODDJOB and Carcrazcid commented on my most recent Youtube video, a glitch on The Eleventh Hour. ODDJOB says this: You point a camera at your tv to record? How lame/noobish are you? And only noobs use glitches, uso u suck at recording and at life. Carcrazcid says this: You are such a wiki noob. For two guys who don't seem to know me, I think something is up. IIRC tywin said he would call off his dogs but he didn't.

I don't care. I can't ignore this when they keep spamming everything I have with comments like this. And I thought that we already established that I joined you and then ODDJOB just muted me right off the bat.

Yes but YOU made it BF Wikis problem by telling your friends to get on. How in the world did they know to make a wikia account right when the dust kicked up? I did block them but I didn't delete their comments as proof.

Our problem? No no, you are involved in this too. Don't act like you are now a bystander. I never asked you to reply, either

=Slopijoe= Basically ramp threw a bitch fit at my friends so I muted him And I didnt want to take any sides so I muted him and I resumed to play my game But he says that im not a good friend (my friends who were added when in 09) and he decided to defriend and block me and for the bitch slap he decided just for that I didnt block a few people who were telling there storys so he accuses me of being a bad shat mod and Admin But I want everyoones side so yea I didnt do anything wrong I was dragged into this

From YuriKaslov's Talk Page
You were acting like an asshat to my friends (Which I have been friends for two years). So I muted you and i wanted no part in it. Then you decided to block me and defriend me, and acting like a damn jerk so I took my side with the right people. So I'm a bad person for taking the opposing side?

From My Talk Page
Dude there not "my dogs". They feel like you should get trolled for what you did or is it that hard for you to ignore this Its YOUR problem, not BF wikis. Our problem? No no, you are involved in this too. Don't act like you are now a bystander. I never asked you to reply, either.

=PSKwhirled= Hold up. I haven't had any PMs, but I know that they each were instigating. Judging from memory. Everyone had a view of being better at BF3 essentially, I would've joked. But some insults were thrown around. Again, I haven't gotten any PMs, so I don't know what kind of provocative messages were spread.

These guys being, Charcoal, Tywin, Ops, and Ramp

=YuriKaslov= PE, as far as I'm aware it's only been over the past week if even that long As for how it got started, the two have some disagreement or another and get into it.

From My Talk Page
Both of you'd better STFU before preliminary banning occurs.

From Slopijoe's Talk Page
For being excessively argumentative and for bringing IRL business onto the wiki for the purpose of exacerbating an existing dispute. Chat-ban expires in 1 month.

I've had enough to hear about the "he said - she said" bullshit, and I will not tolerate it anymore. Slopijoe, if you do not cease and desist immediately, I will have you exempted from RFA, you will be blocked, and I will personally ensure that you never have a chance at administrative flags again. I don't care if you think I'm stepping over the line, I trusted you and to have my trust betrayed in such a way is... incomprehensible. If you become an admin, you cannot ever abuse your powers, even if you're in an emotional dispute with another user. If you do, I will make sure that you can never show your face around here again. Damned be the consequences. Do we have an understanding?

From Rampantlion513's Talk Page
For being excessively argumentative and for bringing IRL business onto the wiki for the purpose of exacerbating an existing dispute

Additionally, you (and he) will be banned from the wiki altogether unless you cease and desist immediately. We've had enough bad blood with users here to the point where, at the very least, I'm tired of it.

A month.

=BravoAlphaSix (from YuriKaslov's Talk Page)= Uhm, just to add a neutral side, both sides (Ramp vs. Slopi and his friends) did show a rather large amount of immaturity. Slopi's "real" friends did chew Ramp and Ramp did chew them out. Both sides broke Rules # 5,6, and 8 (Of the code of conduct) the I don't know about the sock-puppetry account as Rampantlion513isaNOOB was banned from what I saw }}}}

The following is a chatlog on Steam between YuriKaslov (as Jura), Pedro9basket (as BigPD7) and PresidenEden78 (as himself), compiled by PresidenEden78, taken place on the night of July 13, 2012.

The following three chatlogs come from both the CoD Wiki (first two) and the BF Wiki (last one), and were recorded by Qw3rty!. They are compiled by PresidenEden78 and take place on the 12th and 13th of July, 2012.

The last source is from the comments to Rampantlion513's YouTube video detailing a glitch he an a friend found on The Eleventh hour. Compiled by PresidentEden78.

Decision based on findings
The following results will take place from these findings:
 * Slopijoe and Rampantlion513 will be banned from chat for a week due to this debacle.
 * Slopijoe, in addition, will lose his chat moderator status and his current RfA will resume with a fresh vote.
 * For exacerbating the argument more than it had to be on to two separate wikis, Rampantlion513 will in addition be banned from the wiki for a total of four days.

Signatures of participating Administrators on decision

 * 05:08, July 14, 2012 (UTC)