Talk:Battlefield 3

How'd you know about this? FPS Headhunter LASER GUNS BEW BEW!!!! :D 21:13, March 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I first became aware looking through List of Battlefield games on Wikipedia. I Googled it and there was a lot of articles on it. - Bondpedia (Talk) 18:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Do we really need this?
if we have next to no info on it why is there a article?

i think BFBC was originally Battlefield 3 not quiet sure though, i googled Battlefield 3 and i saw similar pictures that looked like BFBC DEathgod65 :D 12:18, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

As they Bondpedia said earlier, it was listed on Wikipedia. This article WILL eventually incorporate more information. It's like "Call of Duty 8", we barely know anything about it, yet there's an article about it on the CoD wiki. SSD 天皇陛下萬歳！ 21:34, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

I saw a funny Battlefield 3 cover prediction. To me, I felt like LMFAO. I don't have a picture, but this is what it looks like. So it's the normal Battlefield logo with a huge, red number "3", but what's funny is.... Preston is in front of it. Now that made me laugh as I couldn't tell from the Google preview. Link coming soon. Wikia Contributor 20:29, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Destruction
I just saw some pics of the destruction in Battlefield 3, and I think the graphics look much more detailed then in BF:BC 2! Conqueror of all Zombies 03:58, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Link?


 * Yeah, pics/links or it didn't happen. Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png President Eden Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png Enclave Radio  Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png "Join the Enclave today!"  Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png 14:03, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Release date?
This showed up on Walmart's website. Claims that a pre-order should ship on September 15, 2011. - Bovell (talk) 18:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Shenanigans. I'm guessing it will be around there, but Walmart is putting that there as an estimate, since DICE said it will come out Fall 2011. Gamestop and Amazon have done stuff like this before for major games before their release date is known in the past. Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png President Eden Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png Enclave Radio  Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png &quot;Join the Enclave today!&quot;  Enclave Symbol (Fallout 3).png 19:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * ^This.  19:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

New *Full* Trailer
I'm not going to try to add the thing to the page cuz I suck at editing, but here's the newest full Trailer . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zw8SmsovJc&feature=player_embedded

It confirms jets as a playable vehicle and from what I can tell includes the F-18 and the SU-33 Naval Flanker in-game. In depth analysis can go to you guys, but I got my SU. :D

74.104.29.60 17:52, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll put it up ASAP - 08:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm starting to believe that the featured plane in the trailer for the US is an F-16, better supported by the newest Tank combat trailer with those being the main aircraft flying around including the F-18, but the cockpit image matches the F-16 a bit more

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Commercial_Airliners-Military_Aircraft_Pictures/f16_cockpit_image.jpg (F-16)

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww241/Strike_Rouge_Mk2/F-16.png (In Game)

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Commercial_Airliners-Military_Aircraft_Pictures/f22_cockpit_image.jpg (F-22)

Notice the things like the little diagram of the plane on the right hand side and the way the main console has it's screen aranged in below the HUD. It doesn't hurt to leave it as F-22 or F-16, but that was definitely an F-16.

74.104.193.213 01:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Very nice analysis there, anon. Although it might be a bit safer to keep it at "F-22 or F-16", considering DICE stated they really wanted to make everything as realistic as possible, I'll put in F-16. Thanks!  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 01:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you remember, but I actually confirmed that. From this perspective, the joystick is slightly to the right. That kind of means that it is turning right from the center. That's F-22's joystick. The F-16 was initially designed as a close-range lightweight fighter for air-to-air combat only, so the moved the stick to the upper right side. Another feature is that not all controls of the F-16 are electronic, some are mechanic (I saw it myself), which isn't the case of the F-22, and as there is no "safety handle" to pull before ejection on the left, there's no way that's a F-16. The only similarity with the F-22 is the clear canopy, but the rest has complete 5th Generation cockpit. I believe I cleared it out and going to change it, if you wanna make an objection, go ahead. Pedro9basket 7:07, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember you doing that. But I mean, just look at the images the anon put up! Everything fits with the F-16 cockpit! I mean, I'm no expert, but if they're visually identical, then it must be an F-16.  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 14:34, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a fighters expert and all, an I could've sworn to God I saw the joystick in a more higher position when I sat on it in 2009. Well, if the joystick is that close and all, I have no arguments. Approved Pedro9basket 15:42, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a fighters expert and all, an I could've sworn to God I saw the joystick in a more higher position when I sat on it in 2009. Well, if the joystick is that close and all, I have no arguments. Approved Pedro9basket 15:42, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a fighters expert and all, an I could've sworn to God I saw the joystick in a more higher position when I sat on it in 2009. Well, if the joystick is that close and all, I have no arguments. Approved Pedro9basket 15:42, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Set in Sarajevo?
Recently, rumours of BF3 being set in Sarajevo during the year 2013 have begun circulating the Infobahn (internet).

There are several articles about it, most can be accessed through Google, looking for "battlefield 3 sarajevo". However, I propose that Sarajevo is not added to the article yet, as no source appears reliable (including Wikipedia, which already states this). Also, all the articles are written in exactly the same broken English, which leads me to believe that it was translated, shoddily.

I'll start looking for any sources and edit this if anything comes up. Th3 razor 13:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the translation of the Croatian article; just in case: Warning, possible spoilers.

"A few pages dedicated to gaming, but also that portals from Bosnia and Herzegovina have passed the information that the story of upcoming Battlefield 3 will start in Sarajevo no less. Allegedly, in BiH in the year 2013 an excalation of an, as of yet, undefined conflict has arised, and the plot of the game itself begins in 2014. when a platoon of USMC, of which you are a part, arrive at the scene. Afterwards, the storyline will shift to the Iraqi-Irani border, and after that on numereous locations arroudn the world, including both New York and Paris.

Despite the ammount of players who will be more than happy to see Sarajevo fetured, question is how will the citizens od Sarajevo and BiH in general feel, cosidering that the political situation is still far from simple. Also, the wounds of the war have still not healed, so for some, this scenario is not an alternative future, rather real and material past.

'Plot of the game is based on the 'what if' scenarios. We see the world as a very unstable place. We see it for example through the shot which echoed Sarajevo and, with the butterfly effect, causing WWI', stated, few months ago Peter Bach, executive producer of Battlefield 3, with which he has, maybe intentionally, pointed the finger towards the place where the plot of Battlefield 3 shall begin. However, official confirmation, wether the plot will at any point be set in Sarajevo, has not yet surfaced." 78.30.152.195 19:55, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: 

I've come across the site Gamereport, which has an interesting article inside. It's in Croatian, but from what I could translate, apparently, Battlefield 3 will begin in Bosnia during 2013. The title is "Battlefield 3 smješten u Sarajevo?!" which quite literally translates to "Battlefield 3 is located in Sarajevo?!", the name of every article I came across during my search. That's about it for now. Th3 razor 13:35, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course. If it's just rumours, and not confirmed, it means that it could be misleading. Until we get it from a reliable source, it won't go on the article. Interesting, though.  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 20:32, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions?
Anyone think this will continue BF2's story. ie the Chinese and MEC.
 * I hope both factions are included, at least in multiplayer if not the campaign. I'm wondering if the PLR from the campaign is separate from the MEC or not, though. It seems like they are, as they are another named faction, but maybe they are they just the Iranian part.


 * And I hope they bring back China. I've seen enough of Russian Global Domination lately in BC2 and now apparently MW3.
 * What do you mean "story"? There wasn't really a story in BF2, let alone a context or anything...  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 19:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * But yes, it would be really nice to see a lot of factions in BF3.  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 19:59, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I hope the European Union comes back, their weapons were awesome. Americans and Russians duke it out on European land and the EU does nothing about it? Same goes for PLR, going AQ on France. --ATP2555 II 01:32, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lack of Dinassours.......wait wut!
*According to a GamersSpot article, the dinosaur at the beginning of the E3 demo and Thunder Run trailer was placed in response to a 4chan thread in which a supposed Activision sales manager wondered why their Call of Duty'' game didn't sell as well on PC as it did on consoles, with several responses saying it was due to a lack of dinosaurs. Gustav Halling, a gameplay designer for Back to Karkand, tweeted about it.''"

SSD, I respect your work and all but you got to be kidding me.....are you serious?! Pedro9basket 15:15, June 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I put references for a reason, you know.  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 15:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * yeah I know, the fact is that I can't believe it xD Talking about listening to the community Pedro9basket 15:40, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * yeah I know, the fact is that I can't believe it xD Talking about listening to the community Pedro9basket 15:40, June 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know! Not exactly the thing I was expecting to write on this article!  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 17:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just checked the top rated comment of the official YouTube vid. they seem to want more dinassours, this is hilarious talking about dinassours in a modern warfare game Pedro9basket 18:39, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I mean, it's realistic...
 * As long as you're making a shooter set 65 mya. Th3 razor 19:32, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * As long as you're making a shooter set 65 mya. Th3 razor 19:32, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Console versions halved
I'm sorry to post this but I heard that the PS3 version will have 720p, 30fps or below, and 24 players. The PC version will have much better specs than this. This worries me because it might not attract too many people playing console because of this. The consoles are outdated and they really need to make new consoles. Do you think this will become a major problem or will players just brush it off?

I heard that the PS4 and a new Xbox will be unveiled in E3 2012, just rumors unfortunately.

The PS3 version being halved is most likely utter bullshit. Bad Company 2 had a resolution of 1080p, so, on a game that is being developed seperately for the console variants, it is very, very unlikely that it wil not be in 1080p, unless DICE really rip off two thirds of their customer base. Also, there is the fact that the PS3's resolution choices are limited to 540i, 540p, 1080i and 1080p, so an odd resolution of 720p wouldn't work for the PS3. We already know about the 24 players only for consoles, as that's the fault of Sony's/Microsoft's console servers, and the 30fps thing may be due to hardware limitations on the consoles, but I don't really care about frames per second, not when any frozen screen will still look utterly amazing. - 11:28, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Aren't most games 30fps? I know inFAMOUS 2 is, and the only time I've ever had the game freeze is when someone made a level that had one giant tower made of explosives that you had to shoot. And you can get a helluva lot of activity on the screen in that game. I highly doubt that the frame rate will suffer very much. CoaZ 01:46, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

The human eye itself only catches a maximum of 24 FPS. Having bigger framerate than that only increases the chances to the eye to catch the right frame and do the right reaction. So for us, there almost no difference between 30 and 60 FPS. 30 FPS is bigger than what we are able to see. 60 FPS is only designed for reaction based games, such as Call of Duty. 30 FPS fits right in 90% of video-games and it's good enough for Battlefield. Pedro9basket 12:31, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Finally an accurately portrayed Russian Army
Thank you battlefield for portraying the Russian armed forces correctly. Call of Duty really has butchered them. Yet another reason why I will be choosing BF3 over MW3.

Yeah, not to mention COD portrays the Spetsnaz as a Terrorist force instead of a Counter Terrorist force like they're really supposed to be(Counter Strike did this correctly in CZ: DS).ATP2555 II 02:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup/Sourcing
This talk page needs cleaning up, most of the information is outdated and half is based on half fact. I would also like to point out that due to the hype of this game now, we should only add in factual, sourced information, preferably by DICE's publicity for the game. XFyre99 03:43, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

This is a post that was previously deleted and that I restored onto the page. Several responses can be seen here. 06:58, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about this guys, new to this wiki and I came from a wiki where we kept the talk pages clean and current, as sort of an interim into the article itself. XFyre99 09:22, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

What's the use of cleaning talks?! You can take various conclusions from debates that happened months or years ago. Cleaning would just be a waste of time O.o Pedro9basket 12:38, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Leaked info
Is leaked info allowed here?

Just wondering, because there is info in leaked screenshots and such not shown here, like the m27 ar 98.24.154.187 19:48, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, you can't since Wikia can be subject of lawsuit for using images that are not in public domain or in conditions of fair use. Pedro9basket 20:16, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, in relation to Pedro, as long as they are properly licensed, they would be allowed... As for the original poster, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be at least considered - 21:24, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if they are licensed, they're still property of EA, and since the person who uploaded them likely broke a non-disclosure agreement, then no, we shouldn't be posting them up.


 * Think about it this way, it's like donating an ancient artifact to a museum even though the artifact was stolen. The museum would be just as much at fault as the thief, since they probably knew the item was stolen. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 22:41, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

You're right, we can't use it - 18:17, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

When can we start posting info about the recent leaks?
There's been alot recently, but I want to be careful first...

Watch the talk message above yours and you got the answer Pedro9basket 10:17, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah. I've asked for some advice from higher up, but I suspect we should err on the side of caution and not report anything until it gets officially confirmed through the proper channels - 11:40, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

If we can't post the leaked Alpha Info, why hasn't EA deleted this thread yet which compiles all of it (albeit in a somewhat disorganized fashion)? Seems like it's fair game to me...
 * Because it's basically stolen property. Frankly, EA probably will delete the info. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 06:34, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Personally, I see no reason why not to post info. There are many, many (there is one channel with over 90 vids) videos out on youtube that have not been taken down, and even if we don't post pics, we should still be able to say, "x weapon is in the game". 69.132.69.87 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Nintendo Wii U & 3DS
According to EA Portugal, BF3 will also on the 3DS. And has a Wii U version been confirmed? I know that is was hinted at E3.

99.255.5.108 08:52, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I surely am from Portugal, and didn't hear of it. Could you show a source of the info? Pedro9basket 23:17, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

That's dumb, if they can do it on 3DS, then they should also do it on PS Vita too. 70.30.55.73 08:32, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * We should wait for him to give a source first. He probably isn't here now, it's 1:38 AM here at Lisbon. Pedro9basket 00:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Go here. You can also Google "Battlefield 3 3DS" or something similar.
 * 99.255.5.108 07:53, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, it's a legitimate source, approved. I'll add to the page, hold on. Pedro9basket 09:01, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

*sniff-sniff* Smells like Bad Company 3
In the Alpha gameplay videos, I saw someone in a customization screen. The SV98 was his primary and M1911 was his secondary. His character was a Marine too. I hope the "free weapons" aspect remains in the Alpha version only.


 * It's faction-only weapons in the final version FYI. And I don't believe that a Battlefield with JETS would smell like BC3. Pedro9basket 08:57, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Free weapons are only in Alpha version dude, you'll see once the game comes out. You can call the Alpha version Bad Company 3 all you want, but remember, the full version will be a true Battlefield.ATP2555 II 14:20, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * ^This. I can't wait till the full game. It will be SOOO much better than the alpha. Op Metro can only be so fun for so long when you only play in the park. 18:36, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

omg i agree and it looks like there will only be two multiplayer factions AGAIN! what's worse, it's the same damn ones from bad company 2 americans and russians dice should stop doing what call of duty does. aww man i was hoping for the chinese to come back but it's just the same shit as bad company 2. if that happens im going right over to modern warfare 3. and yeah this is indeed turning into bad company 3 that's why i never considered bad company as battlefield property.151.196.139.44 18:55, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Just be patient, they're going to release more info.ATP2555 II 19:03, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

It's already been confirmed that there are three factions, USA, RU, and PLR -- at least. So my bet is that MP will represent a 3-way war between USA-RU-PLR. Йура 19:33, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind if they featured the EU as DLC, having them and the US vs RU and the PLR. Having some lesser-known weapons and vehicles used by European countries could be quite fun. I wonder why they didn't simply reuse the MEC from Battlefield 2 though. JPanzerj 12:08, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some very distinct differences from the PLR and the MEC. The MEC just really wouldn't fit with the PLR's role.  AdminRibbon.png UserMonthRibbon.png AwardRibbon.png 800px-Template Ribbon.png 16:28, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh. The PLR has similarities to Al-Qaeda: they both bomb places, they both are in the Middle East, and they're both, for a lack of better term, a threat to countries. The MEC was basically completely limited to the Middle East, as their name suggests. All in all, I think after BF2AF, the MEC, along with the PLA, were defeated, and the war between them and the US and EU ended. Therefore, the PLR were formed, as abit of a successor.ATP2555 II 17:44, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * The PLR might be the remnants of the Russian rebels and the insurgent faction in BF2. BF2 takes place around 2007 (according to the Wake Island 2007 map), after all. If the MEC was disbanded or otherwise damaged, it's possible that they became the primary harbor for the PLR. (which would explain why the U.S. would go in to occupy the MEC in 2014, as the PLR would basically be an organization formed by a bunch of organizations which hate the Western world and Russia.) As for why Russia is still fighting the U.S. -- well it's quite possible that hostilities between them and the EU and US never ceased following the defeat of the MEC and PLA, and that one Spetsnaz or Marine with a chip on their shoulder took some pot-shots at their enemy even while they were dealing with the PLR (why both sides might be in paris), which could have ignited the entire Operation Metro fiasco. (think of a Gettysburg type of scenario. That battle began with some Confederate scouts just looking for shoes, and it blew up into one of the most important battles of the American Civil War). Of course, this is all just speculation, or an educated guess based upon the events and background of BF2. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 21:32, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Given these facts, there's no apparent way this is BC3. But this really looks like it's taking background from BF2, turning a MP-only game scenario onto Singleplayer sounds exciting...if we could only throw out this speculation over the network to force DICE for an answer....we couldn't be the ones to do that either way. But here's an interesting fact I saw for the record: from what I saw from the modification shown at IGN of the starting trailer of BF3's demo at EA's Press Conference at E3 (I saw it live), there was a 1.5 second pic where a soldier was holding an insurgent, both were wearing gas masks. The soldier you're in 1st person (watching his POV) takes out the mask and the guy gets a screams out of a painful deep breath and you can see vapor out of his breath. Breath vapor is not normal in Paris's average weather....that referred dirty bomb months ago?? If so, that confirms the complete hostility on not only the invading US (to Iraqi soil and etc.) but the Western World, I'm guessing... Was there EU - MEC maps in Euro Force, Yuri? Pedro9basket 00:34, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Taraba Quarry and Operation Smoke Screen both pitted the EU against the MEC. The only map that I remember that wasn't EU/MEC was Great Wall, which is EU vs. PLA. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 02:33, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Bad Company 3!? Because of BF3, I can expect it to come out at 2013 or 2014, it's finally time to see the end of Russia vs America war, and also if PS4 and 720 come out after 2012, it can be possible they can come out on those platforms along with the ordinary ones.