WHY Edit

Really? Why does this page even exist, we dont have any info at all.

I don't want to be rude but you need to do some research first before posting something like that okayDan67 15:12, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

The Battlefield 3 Page was also created before it was announced. F-22 Desert Raptor156th Tactical Fighter SquadronDEathgod65 - OMDF (Contact) VMFA-55F-35A RSAF

Well DeathGod, the fact taht it was created before any news whatsoever puts the entire integrity of the page in doubt. Deniedoperative 05:38, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently, it's real Edit

According to this PC Gamer article. Th3 razor (talk) 14:21, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Also the time where a retail store listed battlefield beta up for preorder before it was taken down. Deniedoperative (talk) 06:10, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

I hope EA wont doom BF4, they really need to give DICE some time, to make it better and with less bugs.

you need to add that BF4 will be set in china also Edit

if you look at the small orange picture next to the mans head in the BF4 art work you can see the shanghai world finance center and the Jin Mao tower aswell as the radio/tv building in shanghai with the circular compartments.

That information is still unconfirmed, even though it is strongly hinted that a Chinese faction / locations will be included. The page will be updated as soon as the info is confirmed. BF3 KH2002 ICONPLR SoldierFlag of Iran 05:38, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Speculation, Speculation, Specualtion!Edit

I have serious concerns regarding the amount of speculation here. We can use emperical evidence to say that certain vehicles will apear in the game, but in no universe can we say that the F-22 or F-35B will appear because it's logical. That is speculation, wiki articles are no place for specualtion or opinion. That belongs here, in the talk page.

So, stop speculating, it's not the place to do so. This is a wiki, not a forum. People are going to take this article as fact, and we need to stop speculation as far as evidence goes. If there's a picture of a gun, or vehicle, then we can mention it. But we can't say that because we've seen the J-20, the F-22 must be the US's jet.

No, just, no!

Thank you, Vaska00762 (talk) 18:52, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

You know, speculation is disallowed according to our wiki's policies. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 19:41, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

It is in no where, part of the policy on that we must not speculate. Yes, it is not a fact, it is possible as was stated when the article was edited

You really shouldn't be trying to 'educate' one of the admins here. I know much better than you what this wiki does and does not allow, especially since I've been here for three years. I don't give a shit what you do elsewhere, but while you're here you follow OUR rules. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 22:42, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Here you go: Soldier (talk) 22:33, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

I've been simply misinterpreted.

I'm not trying to educate the admins. I am trying to educate the hoi poloi who do not know that speculation is not allowed on the wiki. I know many wikis and edit and participate in their enrichment of knowledge.

Let it be known by all that truth is the one comodity here that is valued, not speculation.

I hope my intentions were interpreted correctly this time! Vaska00762 (talk) 15:43, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't talking to you. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 21:21, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
Oh sorryVaska00762 (talk) 23:55, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

I believe the Trivia section talking about how the characters are most likely Marines is wrong. Edit

I disagree with the post on the Trivia section for Battlefield 4 about the characters being Force Recon Marines.  1) The Marines in BF3 were Force Recon Marines. 2) It is possible that the charater wearing "MARPAT" is actually wearing AOR1. (Which is not exlusively used by the US Navy Seals)  3) Staff Sergeant isn't a rank in the US Navy but is in the US Army,USMC, and US Airforce. So that is blantantly incorrect.  5) Just because there is a Venom does not make them part of the Navy. It is only the prologue mission and they are trying to leave that area, as said in the gameplay. It is quite possible that the US Navy was on stand-by and came to extract them. The Army has done the same things with Marines, especially if someone is wounded. You can look up loads of US Army Air Ambulances (UH-60 Black Hawks) assisting and evacing Marines in Afghanistan and many other areas. Thus, I do not believe this should be in the trivia section. Matthew1945 (talk) 19:34, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

I said that it is most likely that they are army, and that this would be the first main series BF to focus on the army in the SP. But a "contributer" removed that...

Vaska00762 (talk) 19:40, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

That's a lie. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 00:43, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

I would agree with you on that one. Or they might be a Joint Task Force of US Soldiers and US Marines. (Special forces of course, not regular military.) I can see how my post especially around the part about the Venom sounds like I'm enraged. (lol) I'm not mad, but I do agree that the person who posted about them most likely being Marines is far from right. He does make a few good points but some of his info is just pure wrong. Matthew1945 (talk) 20:24, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Well he went ahead and changed it. Also he said that you should "suck it". Of course that language has no right being there, and I edited that out. Vaska00762 (talk) 22:38, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

There are some theories we haven't looked at yet. SEALs are out of the question leaving the USMC and Army as candidates.

They could be paratroopers, both the Army and USMC have them, and they are elite in their own sence.

What about 101st Airborne Division of the USAF? They use infantry ranks, don't they?

As for the Venom? Cross-Department operations. The Fairchild Republic Thunderbolt II A10-A is operated by the USAF, yet they both support the Army and USMC. Same with the AC-130 Spooky and the C-130 Hercules, USAF operates them, but provides for either USMC, Army or Airborne.

Just saying... Vaska00762 (talk) 22:53, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

FYI, heads-up, w/e, until the game is out or somebody can actually definitely confirm all the little details (i.e, without using circumstantial evidence), all conjecture should simply be omitted. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 00:43, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but we can still talk about it here in the talk page, right? Vaska00762 (talk) 23:24, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

By all means, feel free. Just leave it off of the mainspace. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 23:32, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

SUP YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUESS WHOSE BACK BITCHES!!!!! About this whole section on your little stupid page for dumbasses like you to congregate for discussion, you stupid fucks think that I'm wrong about the characters being Marines. Guess what, FUCK YOU ALL IM FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!!! As for you fudge-packing nerf herding cocksuckers Matthew1945 and Vaska00762 and Lucan07 (or whatever retarded username it is) "YOU MAD BRO YOLO!!

By the way, "Protected "Battlefield 4": Preempting the inevitable increase in vandalism that's sure to plague this page in the future." MY FUCKING ASS YOU TARDSHITS!!!!!!!!

Go away and never come back. ЮраYuriKaslov - Sig image 05:23, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, lol. That is different. I have nothing against the Marines by the way. Anyway, I am currently watching the  "GamerSpawn analysis of the gameplay and I'll link it but at the very beginning according to the video the M16 Recker is holding says "US Army" on it.  So, the Army very well might be in the game. Matthew1945 (talk) 18:08, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
I might like to mention, that after research, that SEALs are possible. Marines who have been selected and fully transferred to serve in the SEALs have special ranks. E.g. a staff sargent would recieve the the rank "Staff Sargent Acting Chief Petty Officer". The acting bit means that they still keep their Marine rank, but recieve a Naval rank too. This system is used in both the US and UK armed forces.Vaska00762 (talk) 21:18, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
So these guys are likely Army Special Forces (Green Berets) or Marine MARSOC.  My argument for MARSOC is mainly at the beginning they identity someone by Staff SGT, in the Army you identify a majority of NCOs by SGT. Only the Marines really use the whole rank, BUT not a lot is known about MARSOC other than the fact they have been kicked out of Afghanistan a couple times... These cant be just normal Marines or Marine Recon because 1) they are all wearing different uniforms just because your Recon that does not give you authorization to wear whatever the fuck you want. 2) your average Marine nor does Marine recon have that equipment. 3) Marine Recon doesnt run with a 4 man team... I do believe the Marines are in the game and will play a major roll, but these main characters are most likely Army Special Forces.  Also they cant be Airborne,  like i said they would all have the same uniform on.  Only the US Army has Airborne, Marines have Airborne qualified personnel in MARSOC or Marine Recon, but do not have a whole division dedicated to them. Then again DICE could just be plain wrong and have just your ordinary Marine playing a RAMBO role, like they did in Battlefield 3.

Beta Edit

Sould we add a section about the beta? people will come here looking for info? that website is really good as it seems to be very consitant with the info, should be add content to the page when new info come out on that site?

In intro section there are mention of it, you could add there. PSKwhirled Talk Work

BF4 set in 2020 Edit

Wasn't that info from the Chiphell forums confirmed to be a fake some time ago? I can't remember where, but I know I've read about that. If so, it would be better to remove that info before even more people start taking it for a fact, there are a ton in the forums already saying that. 02:25, May 20, 2013 (UTC)


Make sure you add in the China Rising description and that China Rising was the first DLC for BF4 to have artwork for the DLC.

Weapons, Vehicles, and maybe Overkill?Edit

In the China Rising DLC cover art, you see the soldier running with an M39 on his back and what looks like an M16. Speculation says it may be possible to use two Primary Weapons on a class or at least pick up an individual gun instead of an entire kit. Also, the aircraft flying above the soldier are a type of Chinese Bomber Jet, actual model unknown at this time. 12:56, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

It looks like a Xian H-6 . But thats coming from wikipedia. --Flag of NFSlopijoePartant pour la SyrieChibi Miku by Sumoka 13:13, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

New leaked info (not confirmed) Edit

Although all of this information will most likely be known by E3, I wanted to share it here. New, thought to be legit although not confirmed alpha screenshots have been leaked and there is some new information within them. Link:

Dont link any of it or post pictures on Wiki because if EA/DICE didnt leak it then its probably illegal. -- awyman13 {Talk} {Work} 03:30, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Correction, it's illegal if an exception has not been made for the uploader. Even if a DICE employee released screens on his twitter, we wouldn't be allowed to use those unless EA has specifically said so -- because in almost all cases the uploaders are under an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) which is a legally-binding contract. Contra, we are allowed to upload stuff from official releases (like E3) because an exception was made for them. Danubian.flag.KRЮраGott erhalte Franz den Kaiser!!Danubian.flag.KR
03:33, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Couldnt said it better -- awyman13 {Talk} {Work} 03:47, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, sorry. I don't use the wiki often, so thanks for the clarification.

32 Players on Current-Gen ConsolesEdit

Under Miscellaneous in the Multiplayer section of the article, it was said that the current-generation consoles (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3) will be able to support 32 players in online matches. Where did this claim come from, if at all? 19:05, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

???.... DICE, where u been man? -- awyman13 {Talk} {Work} 22:27, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

You are absolutely correct, this is, indeed, a false claim. I will fix this. Flag of IranPLR SoldierTalkBF3 KH2002 ICON 05:54, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

If thats true then whats this? -

This too -

-- awyman13 {Talk} {Work} 17:47, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Those were written by editors on their respective websites, but multiple personnel from DICE have confirmed it is 24 players on 360/PS3, at 30 frames per second, in multiple interviews, written and filmed. DICE/EA above all other sources. You can even tweet them and they'll give you a solid answer regarding this. Flag of IranPLR SoldierTalkBF3 KH2002 ICON 06:02, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Way ahead of you. Tweeted them hours ago and they confirmed that current-gen would have 26 players (24 on map two commanders). Makes ya wonder where IGN and Gamespot got their information. -- awyman13 {Talk} {Work} 06:05, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Misinformation, they try to be the first source to release new info regardless of the authenticity/quality of the info they record and publish. Flag of IranPLR SoldierTalkBF3 KH2002 ICON 06:12, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Just saying, second assult maps are:

Operation Firestorm

Caspian Border

Gulf of Oman

Operation Metro 20:32, August 20, 2013 (UTC)dont know what this is butokay72.181.143.218 20:32, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Trailer ContentEdit

The P226 was seen in the Premium trailer, in the part showing Op Metro, and the UTS-15 was seen in the Levolution trailer with a night vision sight. Also, that "M14A3" in the older Battlelog trailer was likely a typo. Alex T Snow (talk) 06:37, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

The ammo bug that is called intentional Edit

Can we please work on making a note somewhere that states the nature of the ammunition bug present in the beta?

(Yes, it's a bug. Go reload a shotgun. Every 1 shell you reload, it removes 5 or 6 from your ammo count.)

If it only dropped the equivalent of full magazines from everything except shotguns, it would be a hyper-realism mechanic. At which point I wouldn't be posting this. UberDarkGuardian (talk) 22:32, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

No -- Seal of the US Air Force awyman13 Talk Work 22:47, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Service Stars Edit

The page is missing a link to in the multiplayer section.

DemonicSparklez (talk) 06:52, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Requesting removal or down-grade of page protection Edit

This page was sysop protected on 3 Jan 2014 for recent vandalism and states that editors can request change on talk page.

I'm requesting that the protection be down-graded to block new and unregistered users, or protection is removed all-together. The page has been protected for more than a sufficient amount of time and no-one but admins have access to improve the page.

Thanks for your consideration.

-- LêgêndFPŠ talk
TrustRibbon 13:10, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry FPS, thats different for game pages. They are constantly a target for vandalism and are infinitely protected. -- awyman13 Talk Work 23:41, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nicknames of primary characters Edit

Under the subheading "Setting" it details the ranks and full names of each of the members of Tombstone but leaves out the nicknames of 'Pac' and 'Irish'. This is a problem as the entire plot section refers to them as Pac and Irish, at no point is it made clear which nickname refers to each soldier.

Can the nicknames be added to the description of each character, eg. "SSgt. Kimble "Irish" Graves, and field medic Sgt. Clayton "Pac" Pakowski"; "SSgt. Kimble Graves, affectionately nicknamed Irish, and field medic Sgt. Clayton Pakowski, usually called 'Pac' within the game" or similar. While one can determine which is which based on the abbreviation of Pac it should be clearer to allow people unfamiliar with single player (this includes a number of BF4 players I know, two people I know have never even opened single player) to more easily keep track of who is who.

Also, I would have thought that 'Pac' would be spelled 'Pak' if it is an abbreviation of his name- I did not play with subtitles on so I'm not sure how the game spelled it- does the article match the spelling from the game?Stefanzi (talk) 01:04, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

The game refers them to their nicknames numerous times throughout the campaign. Also we already have their nicknames in the descriptions on the character pages, as seen on Pac and Irish. And yes it is spelled "Pac" not Pak. -- awyman13 Talk Work 02:26, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
Still, for people who have never actually opened up the campaign it should be mentioned in the summary for some clarity. I'll make a quick edit, thanks for bringing this up Stefanzi! -Krylov FA-37 Apprentice125(Talk)05:49, September 8, 2015 (UTC)